mos10a12 2 post s 30-Sep-2003 11:17 AM	To anyone who lives in west central Florida, my micro armor can beat your micro armor!!
tmitch54 6 post s 1-Oct-2003 4:19 AM	Gentlemen, this sounds like the makings of a mighty conflict. May I suggest that you post regular updates (newsbreaks if you will) so that the rest of the world can be informed as to how the battle rages?
mos10a12 3 post s 1-Oct-2003 7:18 AM	To chrisswim I live in Tampa I have a Canadain unit that is very combat ready,Also American,Russian,West Greman and British. I am new to this way of talking to people by computer. Do they let you trade miniatures with other? I have qoite a colection of micro armor, some of it is 29 years old. I have trouble finding it here. Most shops do not carry it and I cannot put in the large orders they want.Do they have conventions in Jacksonville? We have two in Tampa. Thank David Neal dnealii@tampabay.rr.com Last Edited mos10a12 on 1-Oct-2003 7:20 AM
chrisswim 37 post s 2-Oct-2003 11:32 AM	To: mos10a12 I would be delighted to battle your Canadians. What TO&E do you use for your Canadians? Would you like any allies to battle with along with the Canadians? I have been to your conventions down there a few years ago. We have some up here. I have U.S., Brit, German, French(oh, well, be kind), Russian, South Africian, Israel, Eygpt, Saudia Arabia, N Korean, S Korean, China, Irag, Iran, Indian, etc. Look forward to your response. Chris Last Edited chrisswim on 3-Oct-2003 11:50 AM
mos10a12 4 post s 2-Oct-2003 7:03 PM	To everyone I donot know if trading on this site is allowed ,but I have been gaming micro armor for 29 years. I do a lot of trading with people in centeal Florida and across the states. I am in the black hole when it come to finding what I want, the closeest store to me is in Norcross Ga 500 miles away.I have 225 boxes of CnC micro armor I am willing to trade or sell for what I need.Thanks David Neal dnealii@tampabay.rr.com
fulcrum 20 post s 2-Oct-2003 8:22 PM	chrisswim.... I have a large collection of moderns like yourself. My email is rick@omnicast.net I would relly like to know what kind of forces you collected for some of the non standard countries (Iran,Iraq,N Korea ect).... P.S Sorry I'm on the wrong coast otherwise I'd take that challenge
chrisswim 38 post s 3-Oct-2003 12:17 PM	I use type 59's & 69's, Ty90, t-54, t-55, t-62, t-72, pt -76. For apc's: ty 63, k63, bmp1, bmp2, btr-60, btr-50, btr-40, btr-152, btr-70, ot-64, ot-65, and for czech ot-810(i use german ww2 half-track) mostly. There may be a few other items that i use/mis-use. What great ideas do you have for your forces.
fulcrum 21 post s 4-Oct-2003 1:47 PM	I have my modern forces set up a following (5500+ units) 1.Russia over 2150 modern pieces mostly CnC,Ghq but with the odd balls from Scotia,Ros,Ism 2.Usa 1100 modern pieces mostly CnC,Ghq but with the odd balls from Scotia,Ros,Ism 3.UK 322 modern pieces mostly CnC,Ghq but with the odd balls from Scotia,Ros,Ism 4.German 320 modern pieces mostly CnC,Ghq but with the odd balls from Scotia,Ros,Ism 5.France 420 with over 100 Ghq Leclercs and a good bit from Scotia (Anti-Air,Anti-Tank) 6.Jordan 55 using chieftains,M113s,Sa-8s Jordan lets you use a good mix of east and west 7.Morocco 44 using Amx-13/90s,Ot-64s,H-90 armored cars 8.Canada 55 usual mix Leopards,Cougars,Adats (ISM) 9.Singapore 58 Fun country to do with Ghq/CnC Amx-13/75,V-150s.V-150/81mm 10.Iraq or Arab now 241 modern pieces mostly CnC,Ghq but with the odd balls from Scotia,Ros,Ism 11.Egypt 234 another fun mix of east and west..M1a1s,YPRs transferred from the Dutch,T-62s,Bmp-1s great mix 12.China 280 with over 30 Ghq Type90s and a good bit from Scotia (artillery mostly) 13.Israel 200 with over 80 Merkavas GHQ,CnC also with Scotia's Azhait APC (spelling?)..But I see that GHQ is expanding there Israeli line so I just picked up 15 of there Magach 7D tanks they also have a new Merkava MKIV coming out in April 14.Odd ball countries and Misc equal another 176 I almost forgot 15.Turkey 57 all CnC/GHQ except some M42 Dusters from Scotia 16.South Africa 77 Mostly Scotia with some Ghq Centurions...Scotia does have a great line for this country All in one breath Rick "fulcrum" Added to a "new discussion area" Last Edited fulcrum on 6-Oct-2003 4:54 PM
Anonymous Guest 0 post 4-Oct-2003 8:02 PM	Rick you have just taken over as my micro armor hero.When airplanes fly over your house does there compasses spin wildly? David
mick32211 Guest 0 post 5-Oct-2003 1:53 PM	Chris, I want to be there for the game. Please post the location here. Sorry I haven't been at this fourm, school has been taking up all of my free time. I'll call you. Be good and be safe. Mick32211
Paul 10 post s 5-Oct-2003 2:36 PM	Chris, just like Mick I would like to be at the game. School has me pretty busy these days but if I know ahead of time I can probably make arrangments. Send me an email at paulgenna@msn.com when you know something.
chrisswim 39 post s 6-Oct-2003 9:01 PM	To Mick & Paul. I guess we will have to try for a game in Gainesville after the semester is over, since I to am in grad school. As for troops, Fulcrum as some nice stuff, although I wish he was not in CA, but here in FL. I would even attack his defensive position...such fun. But for the rest of the Fl warriors, we can 'do' battle. 1. I guess that I have about 2500 Russian tanks and another 2800 or so russian AFV, and then some support. this is my guess/estimate. 2. For the U.S., est. over 1000 Abrams, over 1200 Bradleys, then all the other supporting assets. I do believe in manuveur elements. 3. In South African: there are over 130 Ratel 20's, 2-3 dozen Ratel 90's, 23-Ratel 60's, 80- AML of various types(use ghq/cinc aml hull with scotia ratel 20 turret/use cinc or ghq aml 90 or 60 turret on Ratel hulls. 10 Ratel command. have 20 jeep w/entac. and supporting g-5, g-6, AA gun & missle. 30 rooikat and 36 or so Centurions. 4. UK: have couple hundred MBT's and more than that of AIFV's, & Recon of various types and support vechiles. 5. German: over 120 leopard 2a6 and 30 leopard 2a5, over 140 leopard 2, over 180 marders, recon, arty, AA assets. 6. Canada: ready to go with 50-60 lav's, 50 cougars, and 50 grizzlies, m113's with lav25 turret, adats, etc. 7. France: 90 leclerc's, 80 amx 30b2, 100 amx 10p, 50 amx 10rc, 90 aml 20/60/90, etc. 8. Dutch: leopard 2 & leopard 2a6, ypr-25, ypr-mg, ypr-at. 9. Iraqi: 10. Isarel: 11. Saudi Arabia: 12. Kuwait: 13. Egypt: 14. Austria: Last Edited chrisswim on 22-Aug-2004 8:08 AM
Paul 11 post s 7-Oct-2003 10:37 AM	Definetly up for Gainesville. I do not have the numbers that you have Chris, but knowing people are near by, I am willing to start buying again. Chris, what degree are you working towards? I am trying to finish up an MBA. Last Edited Paul on 7-Oct-2003 10:42 AM
mos10a12 5 post s 8-Oct-2003 8:47 PM	Is there a hobby shop in Gainsville that has a gaming area? David Neal
Paul 12 post s 9-Oct-2003 9:20 AM	The Traveling Mage has a sizeable gaming area but I am not sure if he still has both areas. I can check and let you know if you would like. Otherwise I have a 4x8 battle board and terrain which we could put on the kitchen table and play, or I have two folding tables (the large ones)which we can use. Last Edited Paul on 9-Oct-2003 9:21 AM
chrisswim 45 post s 9-Oct-2003 9:44 AM	Thank you for hosting the massive war game.... Either is suitable, if there is any way to play on 5 or 6 ft X 16 ft, that would be great for several players. If friday the host can have terrain set up(or mostly set up). Then battle all day on sat & possibly sunday. We could schedule a series of battles for the sequence of how the previous battle plays out(mini campaign). Everyone that plays can bring their stuff: either Nato, Warsaw or other and we can figure it out. Please list your nationalities that you have and list in priority order those you most prefer to play and estimate number of vechiles you have for each. Who thinks that they can make this in early Dec? we will probably game on Dec 6 or 13 in Gainesville, FL. What rule set would those that plan to play, prefer? I usually use Combined Arms(as modified).
Paul 13 post s 9-Oct-2003 11:27 AM	The table can probably be worked out. I am flexible on rules. It has been so long it will not matter I will be learning the rules again. I have Combined Arms and Close & Destroy.
mick32211 Guest 0 post 9-Oct-2003 6:20 PM	Cool, Chris. I'll be ready to go. I'll bring my stuff also.Just let me know what time to be ready to go. Sounds like a good gaming session. Chris I'll call you this weekend. Mick32211
Paul 14 post s 10-Oct-2003 8:04 AM	Chris, put me down for Americans. I just placed a big order and should have 200+ Americans for December. Would like to throw in my small British force as an attachment. I am pumped to play. Here is my force: 101 M1A1's 60 M2's 10 M60's 13 M109's 9 MLRS 12 M901 5 M113 Some helicopters (4-5) and aircraft (1 A-10 & 2 F-18) British 24 Challengers 14 MCv-80 Some scorpions, scimitars & FV432 Last Edited Paul on 12-Oct-2003 10:41 AM
Paul 15 post s 13-Oct-2003 3:58 AM	After my purchase, I will have the forces listed. Mick wants to play Americans also?
Anonymous Guest 0 post 13-Oct-2003 7:27 AM	Paul, We can have a NATO wargame. Still plays the same way. It should be fun. Chris
Paul 16 post s 13-Oct-2003 9:18 AM	That is fine, I just want to play.
Paul 17 post s 13-Oct-2003 10:51 AM	Chris, I do have a small contigent of Russians. How many people are we expecting?
Paul 18 post s 13-Oct-2003 1:05 PM	No problem on an area. Does anyone have a particular scenerio they would like to play. Per Chris, I plan to have a 14-16 foot long by 4-5 foot area to do battle. If anyone has some buildings and tree, you may want to bring them. I will put down as much stuff as I can.
tmitch54 Guest 0 post 15-Oct-2003 4:17 AM	It's very interesting to see the planning for this battle. By the conversation am I right in saying that over 5000 pieces of lead will be pushed that weekend? I am in Indiana or I would love to attend if nothing more then to watch.
Paul 19 post s 15-Oct-2003 7:19 AM	I'll take some pictures with the digital camera and pass them along to anyone who wants to see them. Brad, We'll take some CinC pictures only if you guys would like to have a couple of shots for the website. Just let us know.
chrisswim 51 post s 15-Oct-2003 5:54 PM	We could have a lot of lead being moved around, a bunch of different units & commanders. I expect it to be a great time. Every one is invited to play and bring their micro armor. Bring all you want/have, and be destroyed!! All day event of destruction, your destruction & my tactical/operative success!!! to MOS10A12: Hope to have you in the event in Gainesville, FL on Sat. Dec. 13, 2003 starting around 9am. Last Edited chrisswim on 15-Oct-2003 5:56 PM
mos10a12 6 post s 16-Oct-2003 4:30 PM	To chrisswim Where in Gainesville? I donot travel that far north in winter but for a all day micro armor game I will buy a new jacket. Will bring all my micro armor.What rules do you use? David Neal
Paul 20 post s 16-Oct-2003 8:19 PM	mos10a12 As we get closer I will send everyone directions. It will probably be at my house which is next to Santa Fe Community College. Chris, I may see if some friends who have never played Modern Micro Armor would like to play, if that is ok with you? Let me know.
chrisswim 52 post s 17-Oct-2003 12:49 PM	Paul, Your friends are certainly welcome to play. We can have two/three game tables at the same time part of a mini-campaign. We will let them play with your stuff. mos10a12: I'll bring an extra jacket for your comfort to the game. This should be a lot of fun with your tanks burning all over the battlefield. Bring all your Canadians & other stuff. We can have the Canadians beat an American Task Force, then kick some Russians butts.... Rules: Combined Arms is what I ususally use, with some modifications. Chris Last Edited chrisswim on 17-Oct-2003 5:58 PM
Paul 21 post s 17-Oct-2003 4:51 PM	Hate to disappoint you Chris, but I think it will be your tanks and APC's burning at the end of the day. I think it will be called beginners luck.
chrisswim 53 post s 17-Oct-2003 5:54 PM	Paul: Get real, you do not have a chance even against my recon force, 3rd Armored Cav, or the 11th Armored Cav. Of course, it is backed up by the 1st Armored Division, 24th Infantry Div, and 10th Mtn., 1 MEU-SOC. Would you prefer to fight all at once, or in sequence? "My armies will crush you!" A class room sounds great, having several cafeteria tables would be great. we may be fighting & rolling dice until late at night, although your vechiles will light up the night sky as they erupt in flames from APFSDSDU & HEAT rounds impact. oh, you might get very lucky and knock out a supply truck or a few apc's/tanks, but that will be about it. So be ready to surrender & save yourself. Chris Last Edited chrisswim on 17-Oct-2003 8:11 PM
Paul 22 post s 17-Oct-2003 7:55 PM	I'll take everything you got. My superior ability to out think everyone will enable me to dominate the field. One of the guy I am inviting said we could use his classroom for the battles. There is a TV and plenty of room. He said he could get whatever table space we need setup. What do you think?
Paul 23 post s 18-Oct-2003 7:10 AM	Agreed. Chris can you send me a list of the mods to Combined Arms, that way I will have an idea of how everything will work. The classroom should be closer for all of you coming from Jacksonville and even mos10a12. As we get closer to the date, I will confirm that we can get the roon and then email directions. Last Edited Paul on 18-Oct-2003 7:11 AM
Mick 32211 Guest 0 post 21-Oct-2003 3:11 AM	I have some buildings and terrain, I'll bring what I have. Chris, yes I would like to play the U.S. (Also I have some air stuff.) I have (1) heavly reinforced U.S. brigade (1) task force (Armor hvy) (1) Armor Btn. (1) mech btn. (1) Air mobile btn/ or marine mech btn (1) reinforced cav troop (1) m-60 btn. ( unsupported) U.K.(1) task force Fr. (1) task force Ger. (1) task force dutch/belg. (1) light btn USSR/Russia (1) t-80 regiment (1) t-t2 regiment (combined arms) (1) motor rifle regiment (reinforced) (1) recon btn (1) independant m-r btn (1) allied btn (pick the comm. nation) With all of these forces I have support. ( What would most likely be found at the front.) Also, I have some nukes. Maybe we could do a senario that requires one side to prevent the other from launching, and also to gain the tech. on the nuke systems. Maybe even a three way fight to secure the weapons. One side has the weapons, two other sides try to get them. This would be a messy fight. No alliances, or coalations.Time limits for the supression of weapons use would drive the two other sides to get there first, maybe keep the pace fast. What do you think people? Mick 32211 Be Good and Be Safe
Paul 24 post s 21-Oct-2003 5:27 AM	Mick 32211 That scenerio sounds like it would be very fast pace. Might be you and me as the Americans. I have not got a truely defined force, but it should be close to a Division (minus some Art and support).
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mos10a12 7 post s 23-Oct-2003 8:36 PM	Is anyone going to the con in Tampa this weekend Necromicon at Sabel Park Raddison? There is gaming.
chrisswim 56 post s 24-Oct-2003 7:42 AM	mos, this is the first that i've heard of the con. Hope you have a great time. Let me know of any great micro armor games and if any new toys. by the way, another play planning to go to gainesville for the war game, robin lumb. He is a rookie, so be ready; he has never pushed micro-armor across the board. Last Edited chrisswim on 24-Oct-2003 12:16 PM
Paul 25 post s 1-Nov-2003 6:38 AM	Hey Chris, A month and 13 days until I show your forces the meaning of major defeat, and a thorough trashing..... I may have up to 4 people from Gainesville. All will be newbies (myself included), so maybe I should rephrase my previous statement. Naw.... Last Edited Paul on 1-Nov-2003 6:49 AM
chrisswim 57 post s 1-Nov-2003 11:07 AM	paul, mos, mick, etc. I am looking forward to battle, to Triumph, and expand my territory. After I totally demolish you and any other opponents, I will not have any territorial demands for a few months. Which army group should I bring, my forces painted olive drab: U.S., German, Italian, dutch, Spainish, Norway, Sweden, Swiss; along with Brits, French. I could also bring by forces painted in 3-tone Nato, or my desert forces. I use my olive drab for battle...and use desert forces for occupational duties when you are forced to submit or no longer exist.
Paul 26 post s 1-Nov-2003 12:08 PM	Chris bring your Russians and at least your Americans. I am hoping to place an order for some Russians pretty soon and would like to do a NATO-Warsaw Pact battle. I will not have enough to battle all the NATO forces. Maybe on that scenerio we can take on the rest.
mos10a12 8 post s 2-Nov-2003 11:20 PM	Chriss First chance I have had to talk to you had a great time at the con Sold some micro armor to new gamers also found a new line of 1/285 scale houses Action Tarrain, by Monday Knight Productions Vancover Wa. They are very detailed. Still looking forward to Dec talk to you soon David
Paul 27 post s 3-Nov-2003 9:39 AM	mos10a12 December's battle should be a blast. I think we may have as many as 10 people to play. What nation will you be bringing?
mos10a12 9 post s 4-Nov-2003 10:02 PM	First my name is David Neal I think I will bring my Canadian mech inf with tank support. I will bring the rest of what I have just incase someone else needs to fill out there unit. David
mos10a12 10 post s 6-Nov-2003 9:07 AM	TO ALL There is a big weekend here in Tampa At the Vetreans Memorial Park at hway 301 and the bypass canel. Reenactors,displays,and miniatures.Starts Friday Nov 7 to Nov 11. I will be there. Try to come if you can. David
rea9390 1 post 12-Nov-2003 3:45 PM	I see alot of inquiries in where to get micro tanks on the board. I've noticed alot of batches of stuff on e-bay. Price look good even though you may have to scrap some stuff due to missing parts, etc...Those would be great for building vehicle wrecks and scratch building rare models. I have some modern collections I think I will be posting to sell. W-German, Warsaw Pact, and some American.
mos10a12 11 post s 13-Nov-2003 8:38 PM	To rea9390 What do you have and how much. I have people in Tampa Florida area that are looking for different countries.I will put then in touch with you or deal with you myself.We do not have a shop with in 25 miles of Tampa I have had to deal with a shop in Norrcross, Georgia.That 500 plus miles away. David Neal
Paul 29 post s 14-Nov-2003 7:10 AM	rea9390 What part of the country do you live in? If your in North Florida let me know. We are planning a modern tank fest next month, and I have WWII and would be willing to setup something up. Paul
chrisswim 60 post s 14-Nov-2003 11:42 AM	to 9390 and dave neal: if you are interested, a store in Jacksonville, FL called Borderlands, owned by Chip Parker can help with micro armor. His phone is 904-720-0774. also, 9390, what are you interested in dealing with/offering? my email is ams2269@earthlink.net thank you. for a micro-armor battle in Gainesville, FL on Dec 13 should be a great micro-armor battle, all day. bring your stuff, any and all you have for the box(mother of)battle of box (mother of)battles. your forces will be crushed and you shall be brushed aside, your territory taken and your citizens enslaved...well, it should be a lot of fun. Last Edited chrisswim on 14-Nov-2003 11:48 AM